March 3 was World Book Day. Don't know how I missed that.
Buy a book.
Read a book.
Join a book club.
Gift a book to someone.
We need more books in the world, not fewer.
Fabricios next Stereotype question:
"Why can't a gay man act masculinely, since the word "gay" is always associated with effeminate?
(nothing against effeminate ok? I'm just not)"
I seriously do not have an answer for this. But I think there are plenty of masculine gay men out there. Athletes, like Greg Louganis for instance. According to OutSports, each of the top five sports has at least one self-acknowledged LGBTQ+ player.
Readers, any idea where it started or why gay is so often associated with effeminate?
15 comments:
Not a clue and I'm too lazy to Google it.
This is a silly and baseless stereotype.
You only have to see how many gays are attracted to bodybuilding and fitness to be convinced.
Hugs and bisous, my darlings Jean and Pat.
very interessant question!!!
...and when did "gay" become synonymous with "homosexual?"
"...Don we now our gay apparel..." meant festive and happy.
A gay blade originally referred to a dashing swordsman whose sword was often upright and at the ready. Later it was applied to any gallant young man.
In modern times, the change of meaning of the word gay and the movie "Zorro: The Gay Blade" (in which the famous swordsman has a homosexual twin brother) have greatly influenced/changed the meaning of the phrase.
--PaulMmn
And I'll take care of the basketball player's balls...
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I have no idea but I am glad that there are all types of personalities who are gay...effeminate to masculine. It's like a box of candy...everyone has a favorite among the assortment.
No idea but I am not attracted to effeminate men.Love a masculine man
Generational brainwashing. For a long time being gay was always associated with femininity and anything female was always seen as inferior to the male. Male always had to be the superior.
Nothing more fragile in the world than the straight male ego.
Years ago I was invited to a party at a co-worker’s home, as were several other co-workers. I had only recently learned that one of them was gay and this was the first time that I had met his significant other. Both of these men were very masculine. There was another person there that I had never met before that they were calling a “flamer” and it was quite obvious that they did not appreciate the “show” or behavior. In short, there is no set stereotype in any category, in my opinion. There are quite a few young millennials (or younger) that are extremely feminine, but do not consider themselves “gay”.
I know some men who do drag that are more butch than guys in sports. A few sportsmen that I know sound more gay than the queens. I think it's time to just let people be...and move along. And besides, when the community is threatened with hatred, violence and such, it's the "masculine" that run and hide, while the fems and queens will roll up their sleeves and slap the shit out of you and ask questions later.
This really took some thought, I know some very effeminate guys who are gay, but just as many gay men who aren't effeminate at all.
But I also know women who are effeminate and are lesbian, and some women who aren't effeminate at all, like my plumber, who is a lesbian.
This seems like just another stereotype, like women "clutch their pearls" yet I've never seen a woman do that. Happy Friday, hugs and Bisous.
p.s., TSaid, "Nothing more fragile in the world than the straight male ego." No truer words....
Homosexuality is related to sexual orientation: which sex we are sexually attracted to. According to Kinsey et al, sexual orientation spans the spectrum from exclusively heterosexual (straight), the norm, at one end to exclusively homosexual (gay) at the other, with an infinite number of degrees between them.
In my opinion, Kinsey and others ignored the possibility that there are many behavioural characteristics that are normally sex-linked, beyond sexual orientation, but like sexual orientation can depart from the norm, each of these characteristics are able to span the norm to the reverse with an infinite number of degrees between them.
Consequently, what we perceive as homosexuality is actually a combination of characteristics, including sexual orientation, that can be normal or inverted (and any point between them). Therefore, a man could be sexually attracted to other men but have otherwise normal male behavioural characteristics, or he could have other characteristics that are also inverted or varying degrees of diverse from normal. Hence homosexual men can span hyper-masculine to hyper-feminine in various ways and degrees.
In the same way, I believe heterosexual men can span hyper-masculine to hyper-feminine in certain ways and degrees, so we might find a heterosexual man who is female passive for example, possibly to his intense chagrin and trying to hide it.
I think of it like male and female brains are normally programmed with certain behavioural characteristics related to their sex, but sometimes parts of the brain develop according to the opposite sex in varying degrees. At an extreme, where the entire brain develops according to the opposite sex, we have body dysphoria, where it's like a female brain is inside a male body and vice versa and there is conflict.
I suspect being a hybrid of characteristics that are not the norm generates enough conflict with the relatively fixed ideas of society to trigger transsexuality to better fit in.
Therefore, labelling someone gay is a reduction of who they are to simply their sexual orientation, but it includes assumptions about other characteristics that may be perceived to go with being gay when they are actually independent characteristics that just happen to cluster more about the female characteristic part of the spectrum and are thus more obviously departing from the norm. Many gay men are males with just a same sex orientation difference, but it can vary to the "effeminate" gay or, at the most extreme, body dysphoria and transsexuality. Of course this also would apply to females too.
I believe that thinking of ourselves as diverse males and females is closer to the truth than simply discrete heterosexual men and women and everyone else. I would go so far as to say we should probably just think of ourselves as diverse, since male and female can also experience diversity (intersex). It only matters to intimates who we actually are in detail.
I suspect this diversity is what "gender" is trying unsuccessfully to explain.
Why can't a gay man act masculinely? An act is a presentation that may not be consistent with the actor. Some gay men are masculine in many senses, others maybe not quite so much, but why should they have to act differently to who they are, just to be accepted by society? Why do you want gay men to act masculinely is perhaps the question you should be asking yourself: is it because you fear difference from yourself and are uncomfortable with males having some or many female characteristics?
I think his problem is that his gaydar is not developed and he can only identify gay men who present as gender fluid, not that all such men are gay. I feel at my most masculine when I'm getting fucked by a masculine man although I'm most attracted to androgynous looking men. And my presentation is very masculine.. Go figure. Desire is marvelously complicated!
I think it's an easy way to put somebody down... no, make that lazy. I like all my sides. And they live side by side just fine. You want to define yourself as just one thing? Go ahead. But I don't think that makes for an interesting person or a truthful one. This is another old complaint about gay men... and it simply doesn't hold water anymore. Explore who you are, love yourself as is... evolve.
Once pink was masculine and blue feminine and now the other way around. Whats considered masculine changes depending on time and place and even between each and everyone of us.
Its a cultural creation, in my mind a bit same as race or nationalities. People are more or less the same regardless of anything like gender, sexual orientation, race etc and the biggest and most true differences are just between individuals, not between gay or straight etc.
What we learn make differences between different groups seem larger, because gay men, mothers or sweds etc. "act certain way". These differences are not build in, they are learned.
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