Wednesday, September 28, 2022

Seeking Stronger Orgasms.

 

Because it is possible for a man to ejaculate without a solid erection, one Anonymous comment yesterday suggested that men make an issue of ED from a psychological / emotional standpoint.

"I'm wondering if all the fuss is more about the psychological aspect of masculinity and potency being tied to an erect dick when it doesn't need to be."




It is. Men - well, most men, anyway - tie self-image, self-esteem, to their manhood. Why? Because from puberty on, with so much focus placed on the penis, men allow it to define them. The guys with big dicks seem to love to show them off. The guy with the longest cock and the ability to penetrate deeper at the time of ejaculation is the guy with the best chances of his sperm reaching the ovum.





Not that velocity doesn't play a part. It does. So does volume. Both of which play a part in the sense of satisfaction when we cum. The more forceful the shots, the more shots there are, the better it feels.




Which brings me to a question posed by a faithful reader from Down Under.

"I have observed what other men experience during orgasm in a real sense, not just fantasy porn, and it is way more than I experience. Admittedly some don't have major reactions at all and I have debated with myself whether that is simply how they express it externally, or whether perhaps they too don't experience much but feel it is what it is and accept it without question, when perhaps they could be experiencing much more.


The number of men experimenting with semen retention, edging, etc in order to gain more of an experience also gets me wondering if many men are unsatisfied like me or somewhere else on a spectrum of experience from 4th July to a sneeze and wanting more rather than being addicted to an ever better rush."

We all seek strong orgasms. It's how we rate sex - in whatever form the activity may take. But I think most men have a variety of orgasmic experiences, every thing from toe-curling, whole body clenching to a slight tightening and release of the abdomen. But it's worth asking.


Guys, on average, how strong are your orgasms?


27 comments:

SickoRicko said...

Non-existent these days.

Mistress Maddie said...

Most days my orgasms or climax are very strong....any more strong and I feel i could put a hole in the ceiling. I often shoot myself in the face. And if I for some odd reason go a day or two without jacking off or sex...then look out.

Old School Fan said...

Looks like that tape measure starts at "3". LOL!

Your French Patrick said...

The orgasm is strong by definition, otherwise there is only an ejaculation.

Hugs and bisous, my darlings Jean and Pat.
Have a great day.

Hooter from Owls Rest said...

Semi- strong, but not as frequent. I enjoy what I have.

aussieguy said...

At 72, they are not as frequent, but still very satisfying, and intense.

Big Dude said...

When I was young, I could blow massive load all the way to my forehead. At age 75, I still get some heavy loads, but they don't go far and I usually end up with semen on my jacking hand, cock, and my bush. It's still fun, though!

uptonking said...

It varies a lot. Sometimes it's like working out... you just do it... get through it. It feels great when its done. Sometimes its perfect... fun. Sometimes it's just so average, but then... when is anything so pleasurable average? It all depends on my mood and attitude. Circumstances. Alone or with someone... location, location, location. Baby oil? Time of day. I think variety is the spice... so it is with orgasms.

JeanWM said...

How satisfied are you with them? Very. That's all that counts. Hugs and bisous.

Adam said...

Fairly strong here at age 66. Not much velocity, but I still make a sizeable puddle. And those wonderful orgasmic sensations keep me working at it several times each week.

fullmoonma said...

I've been doing multiple dry orgasms for almost 10 years now - see https://www.eroticengineering.com/mystery-school for instructions. Organic intensity ranges from tiny to small, but they come about a minute a apart when I'm bating, and the cumulative effect of 20 -30 really charges up my 80 yo body. So I'm not chasing the biggest O any more. But I have noticed that just focusing on cock and sensation, not images of beautiful guys, intensifies my experience.

Anonymous said...

It's kind of difficult for a man to compare his orgasms against other men on an absolute scale, just like it is when a Doctor says to rate pain level from 1 to 10: without a common reference point its all relative and doesn't make sense between individuals. Yet we tend to assume that all men experience the same thing when that is not the case.

Also important to recognise the difference between ejaculation and orgasm: ejaculation is something that occurs in the groin area, whilst orgasms occur in the brain. Whilst they often occur simultaneously, we tend to conflate the two when they are actually separate but linked events. It's why men can have multiple orgasms without ejaculating (usually through prostate stimulation) and also ejaculate and orgasm without an erect penis. So many different combinations even before we talk about intensity of each element.

I have always thought of orgasm as equivalent to the flood of adrenaline in response to a fear event, but as pleasure chemicals injected into the brain from a physical stimulus and distinct from any sensations of muscles contracting in the pelvis, or ejaculate shooting up the urethra (which are possibly the physical stimulus for the flood of brain pleasure chemicals). Thus one could have varying sensations from the pelvis but still triggering an orgasm in the brain, or not, if they don't exceed a certain threshold.

I'm sure this is irrelevant to most men who just enjoy the overall result, but for those of us who have a defect in the complex circuitry and feel we are missing something that other men experience, it's a point of interest.

What I find fascinating though is the men who experience multiple orgasms without ejaculation through prostate stimulation, who seem to find it mind-blowing despite not having the sensations associated with ejaculation. So how much does ejaculation (or really even an erect penis) really contribute to the potential overall experience?

I have even heard about men with spinal injuries that prevent orgasm, developing other erogenous zones on their bodies, that with training and stimulation, can take over the role of triggering orgasm instead of the pelvis. That suggests orgasm is technically independent of the pelvis, but the pelvis (or more accurately penile stimulation) is the default trigger point, but other areas of the body including the prostate can take over that function with development.

Kind of complex isn't it?

Paul said...

Still amazingly powerful and total body shaking, but not so often (sadly)!

Anonymous said...

With respect to the comment "The guy with the longest cock and the ability to penetrate deeper at the time of ejaculation is the guy with the best chances of his sperm reaching the ovum.", it was my understanding that the average length of the vagina is about 6 inches and trying to penetrate further can cause a woman pain, so a penis longer than 6 inches doesn't really provide an advantage in the sperm reaching the ovum unless the sexual position does not allow deep thrusting in which case a longer penis might be an advantage.

After having seen a video of the cervix dipping into a pool of semen at the end of the vagina during female orgasm, I suspect it is the female orgasm coinciding with a pool of semen at the end of the vagina that offers the best chance of sperm reaching the ovum. Now the question is how best to achieve female orgasm and placement of sperm for optimal sperm transport, which is a possibly different kettle of fish to sexual pleasure as an end result.

Anonymous said...

@ Old School Fan - I believe measurements should be taken from the root of the penis against the abdomen and along the top of the penis to the tip, not along the underneath, in order to be standardised. Starting at 3 or 4 inches is a little deceptive, although I guess the guy wanted everyone to see the tape measure.

whkattk said...

@ Anon, September 29, 2022 at 5:46 AM - Proper measurement should be taken along the side of the shaft.

Billygfa Atlanta said...

Well Im 58 years old and for a while wondered if there was anything I could do to increase the intensity of the pleasure of my orgasms. I have started doing Kegel exercises. That helps some. Also, someone here mentioned a while back about Vitamin E oil on the penis to get some of the callus or hard spots off to increase intensity and I changed to a body soap with Vitamin E. I also increased my fluid intake. I've noticed a change in intensity. I don't care how far it shoots but I want to really enjoy it. I'm a gay man so any anal penetration will also increase the pleasure for me at orgasm. I think it varies from man to man but I focus in my mind on something and do all of the above. I'd say my pleasure has increased from a 5 to a 7. Not bad in my book.

Anonymous said...

First of all I love your blog. I look forward to it everyday. I just wanted to say that when I play with myself and start to cum, my stomach tightens up briefly. When I was younger I was a shooter but now at 60 it just rolls out over the head. I wonder how many other men have the same issue. Thanks again for your wonderful blog.

Anonymous said...

I am 82 yrs (young?), and had a prostatectomy 10 yrs ago. Yet I still have strong, intense orgasms when I masturbate two or three times a week. Although there is no sperm or ejaculate. So, no mess, instead I experience acute, lengthy, very satisfactory conclusions to sessions of self sex. Not as good as the real thing, but at my age, terrific !

Xersex said...

it depends on how aroused I am and how long I don't ejaculate.

Rad said...

I am 60 and obese. I do get erections, and can ejaculate, but nothing like when I was 100 pounds lighter. It takes a lot of effort and the erection withers quickly afterwards. I dribble more than cum. I am also "One and done".

25 years ago, I could could cum multiple times in a session, with volume and distance. Was even able to piss through my hardon.

I do miss those days... a lot, but I am fighting genetics, time and age. My family is prone to being overweight, I just don't have the time or energy to devote to the brutal physical fitness regimen I maintained back then, and at 60, I know from physiology that it will take me a LOT longer to get back to where I was. I have not given up, but I am being realistic that I may never get back there and will just have to maintain where I am now.

Jeff G. said...

Due to spinal cord injury and diabetes. Ejaculation and orgasm are just a memory. Your psyche can really take a hit.

whkattk said...

@ Jeff G - I am so very sorry to hear about that. It must be very rough mentally and physically. Warmest hugs!

Anonymous said...

@ Jeff G - what a rough thing for a man to experience. However it reminds me of that video I saw many years ago about a man with spinal cord injury and a therapist who trained him to replace penile stimulation with stimulation of his thumb (if I recall correctly) to still achieve orgasm.

I do not know how they did it, however perhaps the secret is similar to training the body to generate orgasms from prostate stimulation: I gather it doesn't work for most men initially, they have to "rewire" their brain to recognise the sensations as pleasurable and it takes time and effort. So too, do I suspect is the process for using a thumb or some other part of the body as a sense organ for stimulation. Prostate stimulation techniques also commonly involve nipple stimulation, so perhaps they might be more amenable to development as that sense organ.

When I was an adolescent, I discovered by accident that I could mentally trigger an ejaculation without touching my penis by remembering the sensations of masturbation and replaying them over and over in my mind and then remembering the sensations of the stages of arousal to ejaculation and merging them with the memories of masturbation. I discovered that each remembered sensation confirmed the next and soon I was building up to launch simply through thought and memory. It was easy to lose the sequence though, but after a short amount of time, possible to repeat. Basically I guess I was replaying the full sequence in my mind and fooling my brain it was coming from physical sensations until I crossed whatever threshold the brain has and achieved liftoff.

Anyway, something to think about.

Having memories of orgasms gives you something to replay in your mind and a target to aim at, whereas someone who has never had an orgasm has nowhere to go.

Anonymous said...

@ Rad - it's difficult to know how much contribution is coming from age and how much from excess fat. I understand that excess fat in men can increase aromatisation of testosterone to estrogen which just makes things worse, however they don't recommend sudden weight loss, but something you can maintain for the rest of your life.

I am technically obese and with low testosterone and I was put on HRT with a topical testosterone gel. I was assured it would not shrink my balls or result in gynecomastia and yet it resulted in them both without any beneficial effects so I stopped treatment. The opinion of the specialists was that I was aromatising the testosterone to estrogen as my levels were sky high when they finally measured them. Would have been good to know in advance. However they disagreed on further treatment and I lost confidence when they told me just to lose weight. People have reasons they are overweight and yet the medical profession rarely treats the causes only the symptoms.

I have often wondered what would have happened if they had prescribed Dihydrotestosterone instead which is not as susceptible to aromatisation. But the reality is I have aged now and the medical profession are even more overworked and have less time to spend on what they consider more minor issues.

I have probably had low testosterone most of my life, resulting in my health issues, as a result of teenage mumps and other illnesses compromising testicular growth, yet the medical profession didn't check my levels until I demanded it in my 50's and then the above happened, so basically back to square one.

I'm damned if I am going to give up though.

Peter said...

Wow! What a reassuring discussion. We accept that every fingerprint is different, so should we seek the same experience as the next guy? I’ve always been low on all the markers: low lust, 28-year-old virgin, monogamous, no pre-cum, always dribbled, and yet I still worry about what other guys enjoy, ED events, dry-gasms, etc. But as my wife says, we just play with what we’ve got. It’s especially true as we enter our seventies…

whkattk said...

@ Peter - Men do seem to want to compare their own experiences to other guys. I guess we're trying to soothe ourselves, in a sense, that everything is normal and OK.