Monday, October 12, 2020

Early Andropause?

 
This comment was left by a Reader. I think we can all relate to his frustration.

"The issue of male andropause needs to be discussed. I fully understand that masturbation is not harmful. However I'm wondering if somehow I was an extreme excessive case in my youth. The reason I say that, is because I've never felt "horny" or such as hormones building and raging in my entire life. I read those words like "horny" all the time online, and yet I don't think I know what it means. I wonder if somehow I depleted my hormones or created an imbalance that has managed to linger into my adult life. Basically as I near 40 it has been worse feeling like a switch was flipped, and I have very low sexual interest and can easily forget about masturbating. So maybe excessive masturbation in youth depletes a man later in life. The various nofap and semen retention groups would probably say I caused these issues."

Andropause (male menopause) is a naturally occurring thing. However, it typically does not hit until we are in our 50s or 60s. Testosterone (T) is gradually used during the day by normal, everyday activities, and gets replenished while we sleep.



Feeling "horny" is just another way of saying we want to ejaculate. Some men have higher levels of Testosterone than others. That is why there is a normal "range." If you've never had this physical feeling, it's possible to have had naturally low levels of T all along. You did not use it all up by jacking off when you were young.
Nearing 40 is way too young to have to deal with andropause. And the good news is: You don't have to. I have to strongly urge you to go see your primary physician. Ask to have your T levels checked. When he asks why, tell him! It's doubtful he'll want to examine anything, he'll order a simple blood test. But, you have to be honest and forthright or he's not going to be able to help you.


He'll want to put you on T supplements; cream, gel, or injection. Do it. It will help you. Not only in the "hornies" department, you'll generally feel better. More basic energy.

Ignore the No-Fap and Semen Retention sites. Cumming does not deplete your T. In fact, according to Healthline: "T levels naturally rise during masturbation and sex, and fall to normal levels after orgasm. Ejaculating from masturbation doesn't have any noticeable, direct effects on serum T levels, however. This means that T levels don't get lower the more you masturbate."

So, go see your doctor.
Get the T replacement.
And Fap with abandon.


Oh, lest anyone forget:

19 comments:

Sixpence Notthewiser said...

Andropause, huh?
Good to know. I have been in relationships with me that run the gamut in mojo: some wanted to get it on daily. Some weekly. It varies wildly.
And I knew of men who edge constantly, but the no-fapping group is a surprise.
Who knew?

XOXO

Mistress Maddie said...

That would be my worst nightmare. And getting close to 50...i can tell you I still masturbate like a teen.

AOM SoulFood said...

Very good advice and info. Thanks. Glad you also mentioned the NoFap thing. Doesn't seem natural to me so I've ignored all those proclaiming it's miracles. i guess I am a nonopfap guy. : )Wishing you all the very best, my Dear Friend. Hugs, Licks, and Strokes, AOM

Your French Patrick said...

As men get older, the level of testosterone in the body and production of sperm gradually becomes lower, and they experience physical and psychological symptoms as a result of these low levels. This is part of the natural aging process and it is estimated that testosterone decreases about 10% every decade after men reach the age of 30.

Replacing testosterone in the blood is the most common treatment for men going through andropause. This treatment may provide relief from the symptoms and help improve the quality of life in many cases. Lifestyle changes such as increased exercise, stress reduction, and good nutrition also help.

As for me, I actually did et thought as if nothing was happening and went on with my daily life.

Hugs and bisous, my darlings Jean and Pat.

Anonymous said...

Anon friend thanks for posting. It seems I'm not alone then, and stress could be a contributing factor as well as poor sleep. With the pandemic, things are a little stressful at times I'm sure all could agree. Haven't been able to get to the gym like I used to do before covid. So for the time being I'll not let it bother me too much and just ask my doctor. From some of the other responses above, it sounds like guys vary.

Fullmoonma said...

Excellent advice and comments! But there are other pathways if your T checks out OK and you're not as horny as you want to be. I've had a little training in Tantra and Eastern traditions where it's common to think of erotic energy as life force that gets expelled when you ejaculate. This has led to bating using a technique of having multiple dry orgasms. This became important for me when I hit my 50's, which was also my most erotically active decade. Now I'm in my late 70's it's more important.

Anonymous said...

Testosterone levels are influenced by many factors, however it is important to get them tested to see if you are in a normal range if you feel as though aspects of your life related to masculinity are declining. There may be benefit in hormone replacement therapy if levels are too low.

However it is disappointing that the medical profession have been using a simplistic treatment plan for Testosterone supplementation without taking into account other aspects such as aromatase, prolactin and estrogen levels.

I was tested for Testosterone after complaining about my Chronic Fatigue symptoms and Anhedonia, and they were low, so I was put on a program of Testosterone supplementation via externally applied gel. I was assured that I would not experience side effects of breast enlargement or testicular reduction, but I should start to feel better. Over a month of treatment I did not start to feel better, but my balls shrunk to grapes, I developed enlarged breasts and my hair started thinning. It seems that Testosterone is converted into estrogen by aromatase and I had high aromatase levels that were fighting the Testosterone, so I stopped treatment.

What they don't tell you is that the body is very complex and changing one thing may change something else. Testosterone supplementation can cause hair loss, prostate enlargement, breast growth and testicular reduction depending on the person. Dihydrotestosterone supplementation can bypass the aromatase conversion, but it was never suggested as a treatment for me. I still haven't recovered my old self after the side effects of treatment and I am very wary of hormone replacement now, yet it may offer benefits for some men.

Find out all you can about any proposed treatment before undertaking it and make sure the specialist is looking at all areas impacted by treatment, not just the target aspect of the treatment. It's your body and you deserve to know all the risks so you can make an informed choice over treatment.

I know all too well about the effects of declining masculinity due to poor health and I wish there was a treatment for me to regain what is even considered normal for more mature men, but not at the expense of other things in life that I have now adjusted to. The worst part about declining masculinity is the comparison with others and what one had before, but aging is about change and some things just have to be accepted (after initial canvassing of potential treatments of course).

uptonking said...

Mistress Maddie should post a how-to video. I, personally, would love to be instructed. :) I don't know about T replacement therapy. I knew I guy who did it. I thought his doc a quack and he seemed to be on the verge of roiding out. It was odd. Saw him years after and he had ceased. The sex was completely different... less athletic, and more caring. Just a thought.

Anonymous said...

Here's a different issue: Normally I jerk at least twice a day. But now due to my work schedule suddenly being doubled due to the pandemic, it's down to once every four days.

The problem is, I'm getting constant erections and precum stains. And sometimes the erections are actually painful in the middle of the night and I have to jerk through the pain just to relieve it. (My orgasm is intense tho. And that first cumshot is just one huge shot followed by several normal ones and going downhill until it just oozes out.)

Rad said...

I thought things were improving with me and my husband, but honestly, over the past several months, my sex drive has really tanked. No interest at all! My erections are far and few between. I am nearing 60, and obese with other health issues knocking on the door. My doctor ran two T tests on me, the first, my T level was in the 80's, second showed my testosterone levels were down in the 20 range. She's referring me to a Men's Health specialist.

Can't wait to the bottom of this stuff.

JeanWM said...

Yes go see your doctor, they know questions to ask and the tests to make, and you are worth it.
Oh and yes make sure you have voted! Hugs and bisous.

whkattk said...

@ Anon - Oct 12, 10:03 - Glad you found some helpful info. Your doc should be able to determine if you need supplemental treatment. Every body is different...so it's important that your doctor knows what's going on.

whkattk said...

@ Six - Yep, our T levels and libidos vary widely. If your own "normal" takes a hike and doesn't return, it's time to find out why. xoxo

whkattk said...

@ Upton - Maybe we can get Maddie to teach a class....😊

Xersex said...

I, on the other hand, know men of 70/80 years full of sexual desires and libido. I know some go to outdoor cruising spots, and they are over 80... Impressive!!!!

SickoRicko said...

My schedule has been thrown way off. I apologize for missing your great posts.

Anonymous said...

Anon friend here. Just wish I had a better idea of what my "normal" is supposed to be. Seems difficult to define.

DantheManwithaPlan said...

Hi, I thought I'd add more to this topic of testosterone replacement therapy. It is carefully regulated but seems to get a bad name from those who abuse it as compared to those who truly need it to function. There seems to be a bigger and bigger need today with all the toxins and estrogen in dairy products and plastics. They say a young man today has much less T than his grandpa had.
For me it started in my early 40's, and I think stress from my marriage and divorce broke me. The symptoms were fatigue, shrunken balls, hard to get it up and keep it up, weight gain and body going soft, and even depression. Important stuff. Doc prescribed shots, so I learned to give myself shots every 2 weeks. (I also tried the gels but I don't think they worked much and insurance doesn't want to cover them.) So shots over and over will cause your ankles to swell and your blood to get thick so blood clots are a danger. I used to donate blood just to thin it out.
Last year I started going to a urologist about this to try other methods. I had heard about a way to make your body tell itself to make testosterone, getting the pituitary to tell the testes to get to work, seemed like a great idea. It involved 2 drugs, an aromatase inhibitor called Anastrozole and another anti-estrogen drug called Clomiphene, expensive stuff. I'd alternate pills day to day, it didn't really work much. So now I've been doing a medical procedure called Testopel, where they insert say 6 rice-sized pellets under your skin above the hips on each side, and it releases T over the next 4 months or so. Super expensive, but nice to not have swollen ankles and having to poke myself. So there are different strategies from good doctors to help us live fully. Sorry so long, I could share much more but I have been in the thick of this for 10 or 12 years and it is vital for men today. And thanks for what you do!

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